@herself Partially due to the inherent class system in the U.K. (however you feel about it!) while over here we have Tall Poppy syndrome (also bad) where anyone taking on too many "airs and graces" will get told to pull their head in. People are generally more modest, I think? Many Americans/Australians/Europeans think kiwis are more reserved and conservative. I don't think I agree. It's just...different.